00:00:00 - If there's one thing
that remains the same,
00:00:03 - it's the fact that
the CCIE route
00:00:05 - switch lab exam
format will change.
00:00:09 - That's right.
00:00:09 - Version 5 is here with
a whole new exam format.
00:00:13 - In this Nugget, Keith
and I will explain
00:00:15 - the format of the new exam
as well as its grading.
00:00:19 - Now if you're like me
and you fear change,
00:00:21 - we're going to start out here
with some really good news
00:00:24 - and that is the
written exam really
00:00:26 - hasn't changed at
all from a format
00:00:29 - and from a grading prospective.
00:00:31 - Sure, of course, we
have a new exam number.
00:00:33 - It's 400-101 for your CCIE
routing and switching written.
00:00:38 - It's still going to
be a two-hour exam.
00:00:40 - It is still around
90 to 110 questions,
00:00:45 - and it's going to be made
up of multiple choice,
00:00:47 - multiple answer multiple choice,
drag and drop, potentially
00:00:53 - simulations.
00:00:55 - And that we can
guess that it will
00:00:57 - be scored around 80%, 82%,
85% for a passing cut score.
00:01:02 - And it would appear
Cisco is still
00:01:04 - going to keep with their
policy of staying mum--
00:01:08 - not telling anyone what
the exact passing cut
00:01:11 - score is for the written.
00:01:13 - And as of right now,
please keep in mind,
00:01:15 - they're still going to be
sticky on the subject of you
00:01:18 - sharing your exact score.
00:01:20 - That may loosen up in
the future according
00:01:22 - to some Cisco folks that I've
talked to in the learning
00:01:25 - department, but we'll
just have to see.
00:01:27 - So as of right now, we know
that there's a passing cut
00:01:30 - score-- around 80%
percent most likely--
00:01:32 - and that we should be
very careful about sharing
00:01:35 - our score on the
written with anyone.
00:01:38 - Now let's turn our
attention to where
00:01:39 - things changed-- the lab exam.
00:01:42 - That's right, the
Version 5 lab exam
00:01:45 - undergoes a pretty
00:01:48 - Now, first of all, let's cover
some facts about the format.
00:01:52 - It is completely web-based.
00:01:54 - This is not a big surprise.
00:01:56 - This is not a big
change from Version 4.
00:01:59 - You are not going to get
any printed materials.
00:02:02 - Everything is delivered
via a web interface.
00:02:06 - All diagrams, all tasks that you
need to configure, all of it's
00:02:10 - web-based in front of you
on your computer screen.
00:02:13 - This is actually pretty
convenient and useful once you
00:02:16 - get used to it.
00:02:17 - If you're old school and
you're used to the paper-based,
00:02:20 - you might not like this.
00:02:21 - But once you convert to
managing everything in windows
00:02:24 - on your screen, it's a
really pleasant experience.
00:02:27 - Now the second
thing about this is
00:02:30 - all of these sections
are virtual devices
00:02:35 - except for the diagnostic.
00:02:37 - This middle section that we're
going to talk about-- there
00:02:40 - are no devices in it.
00:02:41 - But anywhere you have
routers or switches,
00:02:44 - they're going to be virtualized.
00:02:46 - And guess what?
00:02:47 - It really doesn't
matter to you does it?
00:02:49 - No.
00:02:50 - Some have made a
big deal about this,
00:02:52 - but I don't think that
should be a big deal.
00:02:55 - The devices act, look, feel--
if you could taste them,
00:02:59 - they would taste just like
Cisco routers and switches.
00:03:02 - No big deal that
00:03:05 - Now let's talk about the
timings of these modules
00:03:10 - and what these
modules consist of.
00:03:13 - So you start your exam,
and you start right here
00:03:16 - with the troubleshooting module.
00:03:18 - It is going to be, initially,
two hours total for you
00:03:24 - just like it was in
the Version 4 exam.
00:03:27 - So you're Sitting there.
00:03:28 - There's about 30 to 40 devices.
00:03:32 - There are, let's say,
10 to 12 trouble tickets
00:03:35 - that span those
00:03:38 - not all of them
at the same time.
00:03:40 - The tickets are
independent of each other.
00:03:45 - So no one ticket will
impact another one.
00:03:48 - Now when you get
to two-hour mark,
00:03:52 - a pop-up window will appear in
the exam environment that says,
00:03:56 - do you want 30 minutes
of additional time?
00:04:00 - This is wonderful for
those students that
00:04:04 - were struggling with
00:04:07 - in the troubleshooting module.
00:04:08 - If you say yes, you get your
30 minutes of additional time.
00:04:12 - That's great.
00:04:13 - Then you get to
this new module--
00:04:15 - the diagnostics module.
00:04:18 - This is exactly 30 minutes.
00:04:21 - It is fixed.
00:04:22 - When you start the
00:04:25 - it is fixed at 30 minutes.
00:04:27 - If you were to
finish it quickly,
00:04:29 - then you just sit there
and stare at the screen.
00:04:32 - You must go through that
30-minute time period.
00:04:37 - The diagnostic
module, as Keith and I
00:04:39 - will be covering with you in the
course, is like a written exam.
00:04:43 - There are no actual
devices you're configuring.
00:04:46 - You are looking at output.
00:04:48 - You're looking at
00:04:49 - You're looking at
show command data,
00:04:52 - and then you are
answering multiple choice
00:04:54 - or drag-and-drop questions
on what went wrong.
00:04:58 - It's an extension of the
00:05:02 - Then we get to our
00:05:06 - Notice this is going to be
with your remaining time,
00:05:12 - and the configuration section
is many, many devices.
00:05:17 - We can expect 30 to 50
virtualized devices in there
00:05:20 - where we're going to be
configuring all kinds of fun
00:05:23 - things on those devices,
and there is dependencies.
00:05:27 - So unlike the
00:05:30 - you could break one
thing by fixing another.
00:05:33 - You could not gain certain
00:05:38 - if you didn't gain other
00:05:41 - Obviously, there's going to
be all kinds of dependencies
00:05:44 - in that particular section.
00:05:47 - So now I know one of the things
that you're concerned about
00:05:49 - is these timings.
00:05:51 - So let's go ahead and take
the case of two different test
00:05:54 - takers.
00:05:55 - We've got Pokey and
we've got Skippy.
00:06:00 - Now Pokey is really, really a
methodical, slow test taker.
00:06:10 - In fact, Pokey is me.
00:06:11 - Yeah, this is absolutely how
I take tests unfortunately.
00:06:15 - And it's why I struggle
with CCIE exams
00:06:18 - because I tend to be
very deliberate and slow.
00:06:23 - So Pokey sits the
exam, goes in, is
00:06:27 - two hours into their
00:06:30 - and sure enough,
the popup appears.
00:06:32 - It says, do you want more time?
00:06:34 - And Pokey says, absolutely
I want more time.
00:06:36 - And they take 30
00:06:39 - for their
00:06:41 - They then go to the
00:06:44 - and it is 30 minutes
exactly in length.
00:06:49 - Then they go to their
00:06:52 - and they have five hours.
00:06:55 - It is an eight hour
test, and that's
00:06:58 - how Pokey experiences the test.
00:07:00 - 2.5 hours for troubleshooting,
30 minutes for diagnostics,
00:07:04 - and 5 hours for the
00:07:10 - If he had taken
the Version 4 exam,
00:07:13 - Pokey is thrilled,
really, with the Version 5
00:07:16 - exam because he gained
an additional 30
00:07:19 - minutes in troubleshooting.
00:07:21 - Now let's talk about Skippy.
00:07:24 - Skippy is unbelievably fast
when Skippy takes tests,
00:07:30 - and I envy Skippy as long
as Skippy passes the exam.
00:07:35 - So Skippy goes into their
00:07:38 - and they are done in one hour.
00:07:41 - And then they go
in and they have
00:07:44 - to do their 30
00:07:46 - This really aggravates
Skippy because Skippy
00:07:49 - is done with the diagnostic
section in 15 minutes,
00:07:52 - but Skippy must sit
there for the full 30
00:07:55 - minutes of that
00:07:58 - Then Skippy gets to their
00:08:01 - Notice what's happened here.
00:08:03 - Skippy gets 6.5 hours at
the configuration module.
00:08:12 - Yes, 6.5 hours
compared to Pokey.
00:08:15 - Pretty cool.
00:08:16 - But of course, Skippy
doesn't need that.
00:08:18 - Skippy is done in four hours
with that configuration module,
00:08:22 - and they walk out of
the testing center.
00:08:25 - And they are a CCIE, and
they are really happy.
00:08:29 - So that's how these
timings break out.
00:08:33 - That's the variation
that we have
00:08:36 - in the timings of these
00:08:40 - There is variation here,
variation here, no variation
00:08:46 - here, and that's how
it all works out.
00:08:50 - Well, now to explain the
grading of this lab exam,
00:08:54 - let's turn it over to my
dear friend, Keith Barker.
00:08:57 - Hey, thanks, Anthony.
00:08:58 - You know, Pokey and Skippy,
as Anthony mentioned,
00:09:00 - have two different attitudes
or two different styles.
00:09:03 - One's slow.
00:09:03 - One's fast.
00:09:04 - They both, however,
have the possibility,
00:09:06 - the potential to pass this exam.
00:09:09 - But to do that, besides
taking the exam,
00:09:11 - they have to do two things.
00:09:12 - Number one, they have to have
a high enough score overall
00:09:17 - to pass.
00:09:18 - So let's say, for example, this
represents the overall score
00:09:21 - and let's say they've
set the mark right here.
00:09:23 - Pokey going very slow, or
Skippy going very, very fast,
00:09:27 - would have to have reached
at least this score
00:09:29 - or better to go ahead
and pass the exam.
00:09:31 - Now you might think, well, gosh
if I got enough overall points,
00:09:34 - I've passed, right?
00:09:35 - Well, the reality is
there's a second thing
00:09:37 - that both Pokey and
Skippy also need to do
00:09:40 - and that is they need to get
the minimum number of points
00:09:43 - required for each
of these modules.
00:09:46 - So let's say, for example, in
the troubleshooting module,
00:09:48 - they put the line right here.
00:09:50 - And for the diag
module it's right here.
00:09:53 - And for the config
module, it's right here.
00:09:55 - All three of those set by
Cisco for each of those modules
00:09:58 - respectively.
00:09:59 - So besides having a score
overall that was high enough,
00:10:02 - both Pokey and Skippy also have
to have at least this amount
00:10:06 - in troubleshooting or better,
a score of at least this
00:10:08 - much in diag or better, and
a score of at least this
00:10:12 - much in configuration or better.
00:10:14 - So in short, they have
to pass at the scoring
00:10:16 - level for each module to
also pass the overall exam.
00:10:20 - Both of these
conditions have to be
00:10:22 - met for you to pass the exam.
00:10:24 - And from what Anthony shared
with us, there's no going back.
00:10:26 - For example, if we did the
troubleshooting module, then
00:10:29 - we go into the diag, then
we go into config, if we
00:10:31 - have some extra
time here, we're not
00:10:33 - going back to troubleshooting.
00:10:34 - That ship has sailed.
00:10:36 - So the key is-- when we're
working on troubleshooting,
00:10:38 - we want to nail it
and do exactly what we
00:10:40 - need to do to pass that
portion of our exam.
00:10:43 - So as an example,
let's say Pokey
00:10:45 - gets a score of this
inside of troubleshooting.
00:10:48 - Pokey gets a score of
this inside of diag
00:10:51 - and a score of this
inside of config.
00:10:54 - So he's passed
all three modules.
00:10:56 - And if his overall score
is high enough to the level
00:10:59 - that they've set
for passing, Pokey,
00:11:01 - when he gets his email
the next business day
00:11:03 - and looks on the Cisco
website, can then
00:11:05 - confirm that, yes, he is a CCIE.
00:11:08 - Now Skimpy, on the other hand,
he goes into troubleshooting
00:11:10 - and let's say that Skippy
gets a score very similar
00:11:13 - to Pokey's-- right about here.
00:11:14 - He's looking at diag.
00:11:16 - And at diag module, he
only scores this much.
00:11:18 - Now Skippy's not going to
know that while he's doing it.
00:11:21 - He may have an inkling
or a feeling or a hoping,
00:11:23 - but he won't actually
know how well
00:11:25 - he did until the
next business day
00:11:27 - when he gets the email saying
check the Cisco website to see
00:11:30 - how you did.
00:11:30 - And then even if Skippy got,
for example, 100% in the config
00:11:34 - module-- so maybe
his points overall
00:11:36 - were really close
or high enough.
00:11:38 - Because he didn't pass each
module-- in this example,
00:11:41 - the diag module--he
scored too low.
00:11:43 - Skippy does not get to pass
go, do not collect $200.
00:11:46 - Skippy is going to go through
the process again of signing up
00:11:50 - for another lab attempt so that
he can get an overall score
00:11:53 - and pass each module at a high
enough level to earn a CCIE.
00:11:58 - I have had a blast, and
I'm so grateful that you've
00:12:00 - joined us for this video.
00:12:02 - On behalf of Anthony
Sikora and myself,
00:12:04 - we hope this has been
informative for you.
00:12:07 - And we'd like to
thank you for viewing.