Cisco CCNA ICND2 640-816

Certification: Some Last Words for Test Takers

by Jeremy Cioara

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Switch STP: Enhancements to STP

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Certification: Some Last Words for Test Takers

00:00:00 - All right, I wanted to add a video at the end of this ICND2
00:00:04 - series for those people that are focused on taking
00:00:08 - the exam. Just... my teaching style is, I try
00:00:12 - not to teach too exam focused. Just because it can kind of make
00:00:17 - material run dry. Meaning if every five minutes I'm saying, ok
00:00:20 - prepare for the exam, prepare for the exam, you know, remember this remember
00:00:23 - that and all that kind of thing. And CISCO lends itself to that because
00:00:27 - CISCO is one of the few exam creators, or certification systems
00:00:33 - that actually tests on the real world. Meaning, if you don't
00:00:37 - know how to do it in the real world you're not going to pass
00:00:39 - the exam. So what I wanted to do was take some special focus
00:00:44 - on this last video and briefly talk about some last words for
00:00:48 - exam takers. I've gone through and I've taken every single one
00:00:52 - of the brand new CCNA exams the ICND1 the ICND2
00:00:56 - and the all in wonder CCNA. Now, if you are just getting
00:01:01 - into the certification arena let me talk about the difference.
00:01:04 - ICND1 and ICND2 are the split. Meaning
00:01:08 - when CISCO revised the CCNA they split it into two separate
00:01:13 - certifications. Passing ICND1 gives you the CISCO certified
00:01:18 - entry level network technician certification.
00:01:21 - Passing ICND1 and ICND2 gives you the CCNA and the
00:01:27 - second path you could take is to take the all in one exam, the
00:01:31 - bottom one, CCNA. So I just wanted to give you briefly
00:01:34 - what the difference is between all these. First off, ICND1
00:01:38 - is really a focus on network architecture and do you
00:01:42 - understand what networks are all about. Now my main thing that
00:01:47 - I came away with when I took that exam is, well I guess two
00:01:50 - overarching themes. I thought, when I finished ICND1 if
00:01:55 - you really don't know how networks work, I mean nuts the bolts
00:02:00 - and you really, you know, you don't know how packets are crossing
00:02:03 - the wire and what's in headers and what mac addresses are used
00:02:06 - for and that kind of thing you're not going to pass that exam. And
00:02:09 - in that in that token i'll say they did an excellent job for
00:02:13 - entry level certification in creating an exam that won't let
00:02:17 - people skate by just trying to memorize some material. The main
00:02:21 - topic that I saw in that exam was subnetting. If you aren't
00:02:25 - good with subnetting that exam will be very difficult. Subnetting,
00:02:29 - subnetting, subnetting. Just questions from break this network
00:02:33 - into multiple subnets, to reverse engineering subnets, to how many
00:02:38 - hosts are in this subnet, and all of those kind of things
00:02:41 - is, is what was on that exams. Also and I mentioned
00:02:46 - that you've got to know how networks work. And I put sim city.
00:02:48 - I encountered more simulation questions on ICND1
00:02:52 - than I have on any CISCO certification exam I've ever taken. Some are in the
00:02:57 - range of four to six simulations is what I encountered. Which
00:03:01 - was good in my mind, to think well you know, if you don't know
00:03:05 - how to do this that's what the simulations are testing. They
00:03:07 - say, here's your objectives go ahead and do this. It's going to
00:03:10 - be a tough exam. Now let's move into ICND2. ICND2 is
00:03:16 - what this series is focused on and passing this along with ICND1
00:03:19 - will get you the CCNA. ICND2, I found a lot of focus on
00:03:25 - troubleshooting, and, you know after sitting down.
00:03:29 - Whenever I take one of those exams I kind of sit down for
00:03:31 - about fifteen minutes after the exam in the lobby of wherever I took it.
00:03:34 - Just kind of write down topic after topic after topic of what
00:03:38 - I remember from that exam because it helps me teach the material
00:03:41 - better. And when I was writing that I was like, well
00:03:45 - I had to trouble shoot this and I had to trouble shoot that. Sometimes in
00:03:48 - simulations, sometimes in a multiple choice question of this
00:03:51 - problem is occurring what do you think the most likely solution
00:03:54 - is or the most likely cause of this problem.
00:03:57 - The reason I think it was such a heavy focus on troubleshooting
00:04:01 - is because to troubleshoot an issue effectively you not only
00:04:05 - have to know how it works and how it's supposed to be set up
00:04:08 - but also have some experience of seeing things go wrong and
00:04:12 - and watching when something goes wrong what is the result
00:04:15 - of that and then recognizing that and saying, oh, well this is what I
00:04:18 - need to do to fix that.
00:04:20 - That's why i'll try and spin it this way. That's why when you've
00:04:23 - watched many of the demos in this entire series, when things
00:04:25 - go wrong I don't stop the video. Well most of the time anyway. I
00:04:30 - try and work through it with the video still recording because
00:04:33 - okay i'll admit it. Most the times I don't intend on things
00:04:36 - going wrong but sometimes they do and I think how valuable
00:04:39 - is that to be able to see what the problem was and troubleshoot it.
00:04:43 - Likewise in ICND2 I really felt there was a lot of
00:04:47 - focus on nat command line configurations. So one of the big
00:04:51 - differences between ICND1 and ICND2 was
00:04:55 - in ICND1 all nat configuration was done through the
00:04:58 - CISCO SDMs, the security device manager or the gooey. You just kind of
00:05:03 - next next finish and you've configured nat. In ICND2
00:05:06 - we went through all the command line systems to do it. From
00:05:10 - configuring nat overload to configuring static nat
00:05:13 - and creating these mappings into your network. To creating
00:05:17 - an overload with dynamic nat. Meaning, and
00:05:22 - very focused on this one. Meaning, set up a pool of addresses
00:05:26 - a pool of public addresses and nat to that pool incorporating
00:05:31 - overload at the same time.
00:05:33 - Now, ICND2 really again and I say this it's hard for me
00:05:38 - to put this in to words but it really required a deep understanding
00:05:43 - of the concepts. Meaning, when you, when you understand a
00:05:48 - concept at a surface level you can answer a multiple choice
00:05:51 - question on it. But to have a deep understanding of it means
00:05:55 - that you not only know how to set something up but also, and
00:05:59 - I guess this combines with number one. When things go wrong what
00:06:02 - does that look like? If a certain feature like an access
00:06:05 - list or a nat configuration is not set up correctly what
00:06:09 - would that problem look like? So that's, that's what I really
00:06:12 - felt was the focus on ICND2. Now, if you are the brave soul
00:06:17 - that is going for the all-in-one CCNA exam
00:06:21 - there is a need for speed. Meaning, the CCNA, I will tell you
00:06:26 - when I when I took that exam, it is extremely difficult and
00:06:30 - there was, I would say two, three different simulations on that
00:06:36 - exam that take quite a while you really have to thoroughly
00:06:40 - configure a network but really the difference on the CCNA was
00:06:45 - the need for speed.
00:06:48 - You need to be able to do everything that you were doing on
00:06:51 - the ICND and the ICND2 exams ICND1 and 2, but you need to be
00:06:55 - able to do it fast and that's I think the pressure in there.
00:06:59 - You really are faced against the clock. It's not like the questions
00:07:03 - are that much different or that much more difficult it's just
00:07:07 - you are really put against the clock. And to give you an idea,
00:07:10 - you need to be able to reverse engineer subnets in about twenty
00:07:13 - seconds or less that was one of my notes I jotted down when I
00:07:16 - got out of the exam. And what I mean is, when you see a scenario
00:07:19 - you see a PC and they say this PC has the IP address
00:07:23 - 192168.5.26/28.
00:07:30 - You need to be able to look at that and kind of reverse engineer to say
00:07:33 - ok that came from the range of 192168.5.16-31.
00:07:37 - And I just did that in my head. So
00:07:41 - hopefully that's right, you know. In twenty seconds or less
00:07:44 - be able to just kind of look at it, do the binary, find the increments
00:07:47 - and work with that because there's many question types that
00:07:51 - are focused on subnetting as a side note. Meaning, it is a question
00:07:57 - that tests you on your subnetting skill but the primary focus
00:08:01 - of the question is something like an axis list gone wrong.
00:08:03 - or a frame relay configuration where two devices are on the
00:08:07 - wrong subnet. But unless you're able to quickly reverse
00:08:10 - engineer those subnet masks it's very difficult to see those
00:08:14 - problems. So that's the three exams in all their glory, just kind of
00:08:17 - of a brief overview of what those exams are like. The last thing
00:08:22 - i'll say about. My true last words on the last words for
00:08:26 - exam takers is that these exams are difficult. I have to admit
00:08:31 - when I took them, out of all of them I thought ICND1
00:08:34 - was the toughest and I still am trying to figure out why I
00:08:38 - thought that one was the toughest. It may just be that I have
00:08:41 - you know i've been into the advanced classes in CISCO and
00:08:44 - teaching a lot of the advanced topics and to kind of reverse
00:08:48 - my mind back to the very beginning I thought maybe that's what
00:08:51 - was difficult but I really thought wow that's, you know, to give you
00:08:54 - an idea I went into that test center and I kind of, you know, kicked
00:08:58 - tilted my chair back I'm like okay you know, I kind of have the mentality
00:09:01 - I'm here to take these exams just to see, you know, what's on them,
00:09:05 - you know, it's it's almost like no-brainer in my exam. Oh you,
00:09:08 - know you'll pass just fine. I would say by about question five
00:09:12 - on ICND1, my chair was down on the floor and i'm thinking
00:09:16 - in my mind, the thought shoots through my head, I can not not pass
00:09:20 - this exam. Like it is suddenly crosses my mind like Jeremy,
00:09:24 - you've gone through every single CISCO certification that
00:09:27 - there is. Or I should say the primary ones and you're about
00:09:30 - to miss the basic one. And that, that, that seriously crossed
00:09:34 - my mind. So, I relay that to you to to let you know these exams
00:09:38 - are tough. They're the toughest in the industry and there may
00:09:40 - be times where you go take this and it might take you twice
00:09:44 - or sometimes even three times to pass this exam successfully.
00:09:48 - Don't let that discourage you it's normal. I've had people
00:09:51 - email me that say hey it's taken me six times to pass this exam,
00:09:55 - but on the sixth time I finally got it and I feel great, you know, and everything
00:09:59 - like that. Six times is a lot but at the same time it does take
00:10:04 - time. Not only are you going against some very difficult concepts
00:10:07 - but you have to remember you're going against yourself as well.
00:10:11 - Half of the game in taking these exams and passing them successfully
00:10:15 - is fighting your own nerves when you get in there. Just, you
00:10:18 - know breathing easy, realizing where you are in the exam, realizing
00:10:22 - how much time you have left. And if you haven't taken many of
00:10:25 - these exams before it can really catch you off guard that
00:10:28 - you're on question forty of fifty eight you look up and there's
00:10:32 - three minutes remaining on the exam. You're thinking, oh, you know,
00:10:34 - next, next and you're trying to just blaze through them and make it through the
00:10:37 - exam. It really is an experience that you can't explain you
00:10:41 - just have to do it for yourself and it may take a couple times
00:10:44 - to pass. I emphasise that
00:10:48 - because I've seen some people who really know what they're
00:10:50 - doing and really understand these concepts and they go and
00:10:53 - they miss the exam once and they just think, this must not be for me.
00:10:57 - I must not, I must not know this or this must be the wrong
00:11:00 - career field. These are extremely difficult exams and it may
00:11:05 - take a few times before you successfully pass. But what I
00:11:08 - will guarantee you,
00:11:09 - is when you finish these tests pass or fail you'll know that
00:11:14 - was a very fair exam.
00:11:17 - Okay this is my true last words I have taken some exams
00:11:20 - for i'll just say other certification vendors and and
00:11:26 - i've taken those exams and when I finish the exam I think wow
00:11:29 - that's a scandalous test. They're really trying to trick you
00:11:33 - in word games and did you read this right or is that the
00:11:37 - the best answer, really I mean, like there's five ready answers but
00:11:41 - what ones really the best answer. You're not going to get that kind
00:11:44 - of stuff in the CISCO world. They're very straightforward
00:11:48 - and very, you know right on. I write books for many of the publishers
00:11:53 - out there for CISCO and one of the most recent books did
00:11:57 - was a CCNA practice questions book and it's funny because
00:12:01 - you have all the publishers guidelines and they say okay
00:12:04 - if you're writing questions for and again I said i'm not going
00:12:08 - to say what kind of exams but this sort of certification exam
00:12:12 - write them very convoluted, you know, try and trick people with word games
00:12:16 - and kind of
00:12:17 - words that could mean two different things or try and slide
00:12:21 - a double negative like two nots by each other in there to
00:12:24 - trip them up. But when it when they're talking about writing
00:12:27 - questions for CISCO the publishers guideline says, be
00:12:31 - straight up, you know, straight forward cut and dry this is the
00:12:34 - question do you know it or you don't. You know, kind of thing
00:12:36 - and be very conceptual in what you're talking about.
00:12:39 - You know, make sure they can really visualize all of that so these
00:12:43 - exams are extremely fair. Ok I promise that was my last last
00:12:48 - words, I've said enough. I will say I wish you the best. Good luck
00:12:52 - with this certification journey if that's your focus.
00:12:55 - otherwise, you know certification or not, I wish you well in all
00:12:59 - things CISCO because i'll tell you what, this is the coolest career
00:13:02 - in my opinion that exists in the IT industry. And I hope
00:13:07 - this is has been informative for you and I'd like to thank you for viewing.
00:13:09 - Bye-Bye.

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Jeremy Cioara

Jeremy Cioara

CBT Nuggets Trainer

Cisco CCNA, CCDA, CCNA Security, CCNA Voice, CCNP, CCSP, CCVP, CCDP, CCIE R&S; Amazon Web Services CSA; Microsoft MCP, MCSE, Novell CNA, CNE; CompTIA A+, Network+, iNet+

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Cisco network administration and development. Author or coauthor of numerous books, including: CCNA Voice 640-461 Official Cert Guide; CCNA Voice Official Exam Certification Guide (640-460 IIUC); CCENT Exam Prep (Exam 640-822); CCNA Exam Cram (Exam 640-802) 3rd Edition; and CCNA Voice 640-461 Official Cert Guide.

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